söndag 30 september 2007

Poängen

Hela min poäng är just att ifrågasätta att ta poäng på att kritisera andra. Det var det min artikel handlade om. Det är en känslig och farlig sak. Det var det jag försökte säga. Inget försvar för någon. Inget tillrättavisande. Men en legitim fråga. En fråga, som inte bara gäller bloggande, utan kanske i ännu högre grad, dem som har som yrke och försörjning att recensera. Jag har gjort det själv, och vet hur lätt och frestande det är att välja lättvunna segrar av förakt och ironi. Det är det enklaste av allt.

Jag försökte också säga något om bloggandet som fenomen. Vad är det som lockar läsare? Vad är det som framkallar hejarop och spyor? Vad är det som framkallar reaktioner, lockar till mer läsning. Vem läsarna tror att de möter. Det var inget privat resonemang, utan mera principiellt. Rubriken var inte min. Idiotisk! Fullt så enkelt är det inte och familjens interna resonemang håller vi för oss själva. Men principerna kan man ju diskutera - med ju fler desto bättre.

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Anonym sa...

Otroligt välformulerad och klok artikel. När jag numera författar en så försöker jag att tänka mig in i hur Lisette skulle formulerat sig.
Vem har varit din ledstjärna? Vilken slags litteratur har du använt dig utav?
MVH

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Har på sistone sett många bilder på dig och det förvånade mig att du är mycket yngre än jag föreställde mig. Någon tant skulle jag inte kalla dig, även om jag gjort det i ett par kommentarer. Vilket jag ber om ursäkt för. Det är ingen ursäkt, men Alex användande av utseende och åldersrelaterade förolämpningar har nog gjort det mer legitimt att använda sådana mot er Schulmans själva.

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Jag gillar din artikel och tycker att den väcker många tankar.

Att roa en publik med hjälp av ironi kan göras på olika sätt. Gränsen för när man bemästrar detta och då man har gått för långt, är hårfin.

Att kunna roa en publik med en väl riktad ironi, men ändå med glimten i ögat är underhållande. Att roa en publik genom att smutskasta andra och använda sig av rena elakheter är inte samma sak - men uppskattas och uppmuntras likväl av förvånandsvärt många!

Att kunna lämna ut sig själv, dvs att ha stor självdistans uppskattas och är oftast roligt att läsa om. Men jag tycker inte att det är underhållande när någon förolämpar sig själva eller sina nära. Det gör bara ont att läsa om.

Du har helt rätt. Bloggandet är en balansgång och det är ett stort ansvarstagande man har som offentlig skribent.

Tack för en otroligt trevlig blogg Lisette!

Anonym sa...

Tycker att Alex gick i land med en hel del svinigheter
därför att han med sitt seriefigursalterego skapat bilden av en mycket liten människa som konsekvent och oupphörligt är i färd med att demontera sin omgivning (vad många ju sysslar med utan att se det själva - därav den breda förankringen i Hehe-Först-fancluben)
Barndomsepisoderna var ofta mycket välskrivna, kände direkt igen egna upplevelser. Hade kanske klarat mig utan en del av sentimentaliteten (som ju alltid tyder på viss backspegelsimma). Och hade absolut klarat mig utan "mockafärgade anusrosetter". Men det där är förstås en estetik som har sin aldeles egna fanclub

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Jag har funnit stort nöje i Alex blogg, i din blogg, i Ninnis blogg, i Katrins blogg o stundom även Carl Johans blogg. Det är en balansgång att skriva så det tilltalar massan. Men.. en i en blogg skriver du det som intresserar, tilltalar dig. Inte för massan. De som tilltalas av det du skriver kommer tillbaka. Jag kommenterar inte ofta, bara ytterst sällan. Och bara när jag tycker att jag har ngt att tillföra inlägget. Din svärdotter Ninni fick mitt kycklinggryta med limesmak, som tydligen föll familjen i smaken vilket gläder mig. En blogg jag kan rekommendera är Lotten Bergman, en språkpolis med 5 barn. Mycket roande läsning som absolut inte kan reta upp ngn. Jag tror att även du skulle finna henne ytterst uppmuntrande! Kolla in henne, du ångrar dig inte. www.lotten.se.

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Anonym sa...

Bra debattartikel. Det ska jag tänka på när jag bloggar. Kanske även ska jag tänka på det när jag är elak mot mig själv. Kan jag stå för det dagen efter? Eller måste jag säga förlåt till mig själv? "Anna nu var du dum igår, säg förlåt till ditt inre."

Nä nu var jag lite oseriös. Men jag håller med dig. Det gäller att akta sig när man bloggar. Det är nästan lika farligt som att gå balansgång på en lina mellan Hötorgsskraporna.

Anonym sa...

Jag har stor respekt för Alex beslut att sluta blogga när han insåg att det gick för långt.
Det var starkt och modigt gjort.
Dessutom visade han sig vara den karl jag trodde mig se ibland mellan raderna. Där fanns både värme, ärlighet och integritet.
Det var otroligt många fina inlägg om diverse saker.
Vad jag däremot stör mig på är när han säger att hans läsare bara ville ha mer och mer elakheter.
Han hade en kvarts miljon läsare per vecka. Av dessa var det bara några hundra som brukade kommentera hans inlägg.
Vi andra ville inte alls ha några spydigheter mot kändisar utan njöt av hans skarpa iakttagelser och vassa penna.
Jag ser fram emot hans nästa projekt, lika mycket som dina kommande inlägg.
Du är alltid fängslande!
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Anonym sa...

Du har dödat Alex Schulman!

Anonym sa...

Kanske dags att släcka ned även denna blogg...? Inte för att den är dålig - tvärtom, de små glimtar vi har fått se är fina små ljuspunkter - utan för att den liksom inte lever. Inläggen kommer med för stort mellanrum.
Synd på så rara ärtor! :-)

Anonym sa...

Nu har vi fattat poängen. Skriv eller lägg ner.

Anonym sa...

Poängen är att låtsas vara någon man inte är och ha söner som står för en själlös fattanado./ Agnes

JL sa...

Vad är det för fel på dina söner, när de beter sig som de gör?

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Hur känns det att ha fött fram två mobbare och översittare?
De beter sig riktigt vidrigt. Iofs ska väl din far ha uttryckt sig riktigt plumpt om mångt och mycket redan på sin tid, men någon måtta får det väl vara?
De verkar ju helt degenererade.
Carl Schulmans veckobrev läser du dem?

JL sa...

En normal son verkar du iofs ha.

Anonym sa...

Saknar dig har!

Anonym sa...

Johanna, jag kunde inte sagt det bättre själv.

Det är nog bara att konstatera att den s k Schulmeister började med hög svansföring och har nu avvikit med svansen mellan benen. Liksom Calle Schulman. Liksom Alex Schulman.

Anonym sa...

Familjen Schulman har TVÅ nobelpristagare i släkten, så det så.
Och de är adliga men vägrar att använda von ffr efternamnet. Det är stort !!!
Gör vågen för Familjen Schulman.

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Annars kan du ju inte vara med i tidningen VI..?

Anonym sa...

Hoppas du förmår bortse från vissa elakheter här ovan. Lägg ner bloggen om du vill eller fortsätt... Men säg någonting! Det börjar bli rätt deppigt att komma in och mötas av samma gamla inlägg...

Lilla Muu sa...

Jag drömde i natt att du skrivit flera inlägg som jag missat. Åh vad besviken jag blev, inget nytt sen september.
Kram

Anonym sa...

Den som skriver för offentligheten blir uppenbarligen föremål för både hat och kärlek. Jag har häpnat över båda på de bloggar jag läst. Människor fullkomligt älskar eller fullkomligt föraktar sin bloggare. Själv uppskattar jag familjen Schulman som skribenter; vassa pennor, distans, humor och värme. Fortsätt!

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Anonym sa...

Vilken ensidig diskussion!!!

Martina sa...

Saknar ditt bloggande.

Anonym sa...

Lisette, kom igen! Det är många som saknar dig. Dessutom vill jag höra hur det går med dina studier.
Ha en skön höst!
Archibald

Anonym sa...

Hej! Har nyss hittat din blogg. Jag gillar den skarpt. Blir därför lite besviken när det verkar som att du inte bloggar längre....?

Anonym sa...

Man kan undra varför du började blogga egentligen. För att få press i DN? Det blev inte långvarit.

Anonym sa...

Det är lite pinsamt med bloggare som bara slutar utan att vara raka mot sina läsare.

Du kan säkert se statistik på att folk fortfarande surfar in på din sida då och då. Varför inte göra oss en tjänst och meddela att du slutat blogga? Eller tror du själv att du kommer sätta dig och skriva ett nytt inlägg vilken dag som helst?

Nej se hur ärligt Alex och Calle avslutat sitt bloggande. Och med alla chanser i världen att ta upp det igen om andan faller på.

Anonym sa...

Jag brukar kolla din sida så gott som dagligen och hoppas på ett nytt inlägg, så jag håller fullständigt med Anna. Hör av dig!
mvh,
Archibald

Anonym sa...

Helt otroligt vad mycket dumheter som ploppar upp bland kommentarerna. Om man börjar blogga så är det väl antagligen för att man tycker om att skriva och berätta samt att man har ett (positivt) intresse för sina medmänniskor. Och när man läser bloggar är det också för att man är (positivt) intresserad av sin omvärld, inte för att man nödvändigtvis saknar ett eget "riktigt" liv som en del verkar tycka. När slutade det vara rumsrent att kommunicera? Det här är bara ett nytt sätt att göra det på. När man bloggar bjuder man på något och naturligtvis på sina egna villkor. Hur kan man bara komma på den vilda idén att bloggläsarna då har en massa krav att ställa. Och baktankar med att börja blogga. Baktankar??? Och vad är meningen med att bloggaren ska stå till svars för vad dess familj och släkt gjort eller inte gjort? Muslimskt tänkande? Vi är individer. Mina barn är t ex helt och totalt olika individer trots samma uppfostran och hemmiljö. Hur mycket ansvar bär då jag för den som faller utanför ramarna? Lika lite skulle jag vilja säga som jag skulle kunna stoltsera över den som uträttar storverk.

Hoppas Du mår bra Lisette Schulman och med tanke på en del vidriga kommentarer kan jag förstå om du inte känner för att blogga mer. (Nu spånar jag bara för den verkliga anledningen vet ju inte jag.)

Hans Georg Lundahl sa...

Goddag fru Schulman ... godtar frun min ironie mot Körberg, emedan han sjelf öfvertrampat, eller var jag för kärlekslös (inlägget är "Jag har förståelse för vidskepliga atheister...")

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